I It was everything from Vonda Dyers situation of being asked to come up to Bills room and talk leadership and a forced kiss, you know, a grab around the waist. Its the biblical admonition, you know, to hold a knife to your throat lest you desire the Kings delicacies. Friends are important! You have to have a lead pastor who creates a strong culture of accountability. Jill I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. And in the few times Ive spoken with him, I found his insights to be profound. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. I havent seen a lot of true owning, true repenting, true confessing. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. So since youve seen a lot of this kind of up close and personal through talking to witnesses and elders and staff people, how bad was the abuse at Willow Creek? Because I often wonder what would have happened if he had come back and you know, not been well are not been really able to do his job but said, You know what, Ive got to do this. This is the you know, erither, I need the job, or, This ministry completes me. or whatever, whatever the excuse is. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. What I saw happen at Willow is, the board as a unit was willing to dissemble in the amount necessary to preserve the organization. And when I came into the representation, that was a new term to me, Id never heard anything like it. Everything started to make sense. At one point, the elder board at Willow became what people call a policy governance board. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. Is that correct? WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. How do we deal with claims of sexual abuse? And so when you know from the pulpit, that might be a strength. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. Thats not to say there arent authentic people there. We were fighting asymmetric warfare, right? Thats one of the things that attracted me to it is that he would admit something that he had failed, like, I remember one Wednesday night at a midweek service, and he got up and he said how that day he had seen somebody who was, you know, he could tell that they were upset and in need, and he just walked right by the person and totally blew them off. It manifested at the Human Resources level. Just what I call a deformed leadership culture at the church where certain things became acceptable that shouldnt. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." But it really had the tone has to be set by leadership for a culture of goodness. And I think there was, but I think that theres a spiritual stronghold around celebrity culture within evangelicalism writ large. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! Boy, and if more churches did that, how much pain and heartache among the sheep would have been spared? I wonder, I wonder what effect that might have had on them. So Im guessing youre not against lawyers being on board. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. Think about the psychology of someone who could be doing what was alleged by Pat Baranowski to have been done to her. It is. One of those women is Vonda Dyer. And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. I did live it. Let me give you some examples. May you and your family be richly bleSSed!!! Lawyer for Bill Hybels Victims Shares Inside Story. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. The thief knows how to how to get through that lock, right? I was blown away. Amen. This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. I think they can do it effectively. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Nobody who is an elder at a church should have any aspect of their identity wrapped up in either the role of being an elder or in the success or failure of the organization. Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. If youre looking for a car I encourage you to visit my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And yet here we see a church thats ostensibly about serving God, and its about proclaiming the gospel and yet this is happening within the church. Its biblical. I dont know. Thats a bad default state. Maybe some of your listeners are familiar with that you can go on YouTube and and see what thats all about. And you have to, there must be assiduous accountability going on in the life of someone who has the big radio show has the big platform, his platform at conferences and large organizations, because the temptations are greater. And Ive been a critic of megachurch multi-site model. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. God uses the faithful and generous support of people like you to continue to change lives through the ministry of Telling the Truth. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Or what is the church think about Calvinism? something along those lines. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. I think one of the ways that Willow tried to reckon with the situation was to permit Bill Hybels to retire from his role at the church. And Im like, Ive never seen a spiritual leader ever, ever have that sort of self disclosure in front of the church before he preaches. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! How do you get people to come to church when there are more authentic people in the bars? To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." These little bitty people, from Willows perspective, who helped win the PR back, its a miracle. You know, when you have somebody like Bryan Loritts, who when hes talking about why when he was at a former church, he didnt disclose to the church that they had a sexual predator among them for six months. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. You have your identity rooted in something other than Christ, the centrality of Christ. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. Inside their system, they need to be guarded, governed, guided. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. Hi. Thats what he was. Yeah. But the thing that was so shocking to me, is that Bill Hy Hybels was the first pastor I had ever seen be so vulnerable from the pulpit. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. In this Milgram experiment, they found that people are willing to do things under collar of authority and that they would not probably otherwise do. Bent Tree family and friends of Bent Tree, we invite you to post here (or on social media) your comments of encouragement, gratitude, blessing, remembrance, and tribute to the many long years our brother Pete and sister Libby have poured out their lives for the building up of Christs church. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. How does our elder board navigate things differently with that Pastor? And you mentioned to me that there were some stop signs along the way. JULIE ROYS 23:38, What I meant by that comment is that unanimity didnt create any problems for the board and senior pastor because everyone agreed with James MacDonald. and I found these people in those imperfect churches! I appreciate you so much and look forward to visiting with you again soon. Well, and I hope there are Christian leaders listening to this who take note because is the time of just being silent and thinking that because youre silent, nothing will come back on you, thats past. It is not a building. When you have a woman who says I was molested by a staff member, or you have a staff member who says, Bill Hybels just threw a punch at me, or dog cuts me up and down the hallway, those arent matters of policy, Julie. In fact, back in the late 80s, early 90s, we went to Willow Creek and we had a wonderful experience. I agree, Pastor Bob. To view their entire showroom online. It took me a long time to agree that he had done the things of which he had been accused. This is what manifests. Its a serious analog for what happened at Willow. Youre absolutely right. In context, I think my meaning becomes clear as I say soon after, agreeing with Mitchs assessment that unanimity is bad: Absolutely horrible. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. Theres a lot of church boards that operate that way. And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. Theres, theres an advocacy piece to lawyering that needs to be there a little bit, but it doesnt need to be pervasive. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. As I look back on my own four years on staff, Im thankful for the teaching and leadership that Pete Briscoe has brought to Bent Tree, and I know that so many of us have been impacted by his attention to the Lord and quick obedience to however God leads him. I was a member of WCCC for many years. He was running and we were praying that he would surrender fully to God. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. So thanks again. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. And presented them with the information, he essentially tossed it to the side and said, So what?, No consequences. I am with you in this sad place of justified disappointment in the church. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. I have been a child of God since I was four and in ministry most of my life. There are therapy notes to support her story. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. But they spoke. And I remember you saying once that you had gotten a manual, I think it was from the ECFA, and boy, we could talk about them. And thats one of the things that I just come back to is that the word hypocrisy in the Greek the word that comes from that means actor. Those are the good guys. And the people in this story are complex characters. I think ultimately, we are still kind of under the inertia of a culture that was fomented by Pete Briscoe, which was a culture of goodness, a culture of grace and its still carrying forward under that momentum. 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